thats frustrating. we kept lucy outside utnil she did it. and it took 30 minutes sometimes. it was mondo frustrating :(

you know, i've actually tried that as well....Bella just gets really upset and wants back in...then waits a second when I'm not looking and there's my present for my patience! I've also tried putting her poop outside, and that doesn't work either. I'm almost at my wits end, because its really embarassing when I have someone over.

oh i udnerstand! Lucy will do it now just to spite us (and she is 3) if we leave her longer, she will poop on the floor and not pee. do you go for walks or just out to the yard?

oh, we go for walks every single day and go in the yard multiple times a day!! auugh!

ha ha - i just went through that this morning (no, i know it's not really funny...)! i just kept tad outside until he did it - took about 30 minutes. he kept running back to the door and i kept picking him up and putting him back in middle of the grass. i don't know how many times we went through that. *sigh* i'm eagerly awaiting for other's wisdom on this, too!

It's good to know i'm not the ONLY one. How old is Tad?

he's 6 months. i think it boils down to being more stubborn than they are ;)

...and that's a feat in itself!

I have the similar experience with Zeke when it rains. If there is water falling from the sky, Zeke will only pee outside as fast as he can and then runs back inside. I have to keep bringing him back to the spot where he likes to poop and make him stay there and get soaked (along with me) until he goes. He knows what "go potty" means, and I just keep saying that until he goes. He's finally realized that if he poops he does not have to keep getting wet and we don't really go through this as much anymore, but it took a little while. I think it just takes repetition and not giving in.

I would agree with that. As annoying as it is... that's also how I trained my dog to use the retractable leash properly (when he'd go around a pole, I taught him how to sense that he needed to come back the same way he came so I wouldn't have to do circles around the pole just to untangle the leash). It took about 3 days of standing around on street corners wrapped around a street lamp, me gently tugging on the leash and motioning and calling him to give him an idea of what I wanted of him. People thought it was nuts. One time I stood at the corner of this one street for a full hour. But then I had the pleaure of walking a dog and people going "HOLY CRAP! How does he just "KNOW" to come back around the pole like that???" :)

Anyway, the short moral is simply... if you have a feeling she has to go (eg. after a meal, after you've been away from the house for a while, or after playing, or it's simply "that time of day" when she usually goes), take her outside and wait until she does it, even if it takes an hour (maybe take along a little bottle of water), and definitely take along whatever method you use to train (ie. clicker or a special snack). And then praise her to bits as soon as she does it.

If you can do this every single time for about a week (and she never once goes inside the house again during this week), I can almost guarantee you she'll catch on fast. If she goes inside though, it will take longer. But just ignore anything she does inside. And praise her profusely for going outside. Dogs are super intelligent and learn fast, but the learning has to be very consistent and simple. You have to show her you mean business, and what business you mean :)

Both of our bosties did that, I think it was a spite thing ;) They eventually learned that pee AND poo goes outside....how they did it I have no idea because I think all my brain cells were fried from standing outside for great lengths of time at all hours of the day and night. That's exactly what we had to do though, was stand outside FOR-EVER and sometimes take them right back outside as soon as we got inside. We looked ridiculous, but eventually it clicked. Hang in there!

my friend has pretty much the exact opposite problem. his dog wont poop unless he is on a walk. just putting him outside wont work!

as for advice... well, our dogs werent fully potty trained until they were about 8 months old, so i dont think you want my advice :)

Looks like I'll be in the same boat! Uuughh..Any advice will be gladly accepted!

Violet is 2 and still had those accidents. When it comes to the rain, she barely goes pee outside so I have to take an umbrella and I have to put it over her in order for her to do anything...spoiled boston :-)

But Violet did the same thing...she know what potty means, but when she would poop outside, we would give her a treat at she was doing it and we would also praise her to no end until she was done because it makes them understand that that was a good thing :-) and it gets them all excited and happy.

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