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07 February 2009 @ 07:58 am
Why hello!
I have a question, maybe some of you could help me with an answer.

I don't understand what my Boston is doing.

Dexter is about 5.5 months old... potty training has been a huge challenge. First he had a bladder infection, we got that cleared up and he was making tremendous strides. Lately he's been doing some things that usually ruin the start of my day.

Almost every morning without fail he pees and poops all over his crate. Now at this point he should be able to hold his bladder at least 6 hours. Right before bed he always gets to go out and do his business. He often won't go when he's out- it's really frustrating It's almost like a power struggle- I ::want:: to pee and poop in my crate ma!

What I don't understand is when my girlfriend and I are at work and he's crated all day he DOESN'T mess his crate. I worry all day that I'll come home to the same mess we have every day in the morning. 9 out of 10 days he doesn't mess his crate during the day. When we come home at night I take him out, praise him till the cows come home, hug him, love him, and let him know what an awesome job he did.

His behavior baffles me and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for my tough lil guy. I love him so much and I can't figure out why he would do it. The only idea I had is he is trying to get into bed with us. But I never let him come and cuddle with me after he decides to pee all over himself. You know, well I have to let you out to clean, I'm not gonna put you back in, I'm going to just let you in bed. NOT!


thank you :)
Joannamiss_upsetter on February 7th, 2009 09:05 pm (UTC)
you may want to adjust eating times a bit, and take him out and wait until he goes before you go to bed.

reward, reward, reward.

have you set a precedent that it's not okay to potty in the crate? Whenever bella does something bad, i just point and talk in a deep voice. It's to the point i don't even have to do that anymore. i just stand by something that she did that was bad and she runs and hides!

I think the bladder infection put the poor lil guy off to a bad start. He'll be fully trained before you know it, just build strong habits now and they'll last a lifetime.

(PS - bella wasn't fully potty trained until about a little under a year, but it was mainly cause the apt i was living in was FAR from any sort of grass!)
Kieranwalklikethunder on February 8th, 2009 03:38 am (UTC)
he does get very upset when i talk in my angry voice. i make a point to go WHAT IS THIS? and he gets upset enough that he usually sulks next to me while i clean it up. it's weird because he won't cry before he does it, just after he starts to freak out like "OMG it's ON MY FEET! LET ME OUT!"

he gets so much praise for his "poopy and peepee" outside. the neighbours i'm sure think i'm insane for how i act when he's a good boy. :) he gets treats and hugs and kisses all over.

he does little accidents now and again inside when he's not int he crate, but it's usually just me forgetting his signals and stuff. or i SWEAR he pees on the floor when he's mad at me for not letting in the bathroom. headstrong little dude.

thanks for the encouragement though... knowing others didn't have a fully trained puppy till a year makes me feel like there is hope :)
lucy_chronicles: buster fast foodlucy_chronicles on February 7th, 2009 09:53 pm (UTC)
Consistency & Patience
Ditto to above.

Try changing food. Go RAW and look for the raw dog food forum. it will cut down on the poooping and peeing let alone be preventative for life long issues.

make sure you scold, bad noises such as newspaper swats, no's, when he does something in his crate. try walking him on a leash to do his bizness. my pug and i can be at war in the morning sometime. no pee, no food. he needs to be reminded occasionally or he isn't let inside w/ the other one to be fed.

try letting him in the bed at night and if he screws up, back into the crate for punishment after he or if he does something which is reinforced w/ the bad noises etc. repeat.

consistency and 2 weeks of patience should do it. other than that, see the website 'it's me or the dog' per on tv and ceasar the dog whisperer as well..

good luck!
(Anonymous) on February 8th, 2009 03:43 am (UTC)
Re: Consistency & Patience
well i know letting him in bed at all won't fly with the SO. he's awful about not making it to the pee pad unless we lead him there when it's too cold for outside potty.
i am actually planning on going raw. right now i don't have the time with my job- i was raw with my cats for a while and it did awesome things for their fur and i'm sure their insides. for now he's just on all natural corn free stuff. i'm hoping once things settle down at work i'll have time for spoiling my children again :)

i definitely do the potty before meal times. moving the meal times is going to be a challenge though. right now i do them at about 9-10am and between 5-7pm because of the SO and i's work schedule. should i shoot more towards 5pm?
stacyleigh_1999stacyleigh_1999 on February 9th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC)
adjust the times of day he eats/drinks. If he's going in his crate is probably because he can't hold it any longer and even though you think he should be able to hold it doesn't mean he can. Try feeding closer to bed time. Good luck potty training is no fun.
Kieranwalklikethunder on February 9th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
i would think feeding farther from bedtime would be better since then he would have a few poops out of the way and have less to digest.
he's just being a brat though honestly. yesterday he was crated for two hours and peed.
the way i know he's capable is that he does on a regular basis stay in his crate for 10 hours and has no accidents. He's really great for me during the day letting me know- I think the problem is more anxiety based then anything.

He's very selective about when he decides to mess himself. jerkface cutie face. lol.
stacyleigh_1999stacyleigh_1999 on February 9th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
His digestive system wont have time to work if you feed him before bedtime at least to poop. Unless you are feeding him around noon. Try first thing in the morning and again before bed.
Kieranwalklikethunder on February 9th, 2009 09:54 pm (UTC)
do you have a source on this?
it still makes no sense. dex always uses the bathroom right after he eats. that would be proof that the digestive system is working.
stacyleigh_1999stacyleigh_1999 on February 9th, 2009 10:06 pm (UTC)
I didn't say his digestive system wasn't working. It takes more than the time it takes him to eat to digest his food. More likely if he goes right after eating its from something he ate or drank earlier in the day. If you can get him on a schedule of eating and going out you shouldn't have these accidents.
Kieranwalklikethunder on February 10th, 2009 12:15 am (UTC)
if he has to go after eating that would be the food he currently ate pushing out on the food he ate earlier. it's simply biology.

he is on a schedule. i was looking for tips not for someone to be condescending and tell me i shouldn't be having accidents at all with a 6 month old puppy. if you read the post there is no consistency to when he decides to have these accidents.

other people's suggestions have been working fine.
have a great day.