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23 August 2005 @ 05:15 pm
 

Here are some pics of her that the breeder sent me....I'm not sure what type of mange it is but maybe the pics will help someone who might be able to tell me what type.

 

 
 
 
Lauramaybeyousavedme on August 23rd, 2005 02:19 pm (UTC)
the pictures dont work for me ;x
Melindamindy1024 on August 23rd, 2005 02:28 pm (UTC)
I can't see the pics either...
A mass of walking contradictions: gaydognickitty on August 23rd, 2005 02:34 pm (UTC)
Personally, if a breeder wanted to give me a discount for a sick dog, I wouldn't consider her very reputable. In fact, I would be VERY concerned, no matter how treatable the condition is.

How did she get it?
What kind of conditions is she kept in?


Amber: Ashton says Hichancepuppeh on August 23rd, 2005 02:50 pm (UTC)
Puppies get it from the mother who could have got it from her mother and so on, so forth. It's not really a matter of the conditions that the puppy is kept in.
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 04:42 pm (UTC)
Seconded. I would definitely be questioning this breeder.

chancepuppeh is right though, it doesn't neccesarily mean that they were kept in bad conditions or anything.. I believe all dogs are passed the mite from their mother at birth and during cuddling when they are very young, but only certain dogs have an "outbreak" so to speak (as someone said in her previous post- most vets link it to a weaker immune system).

The puppy we rescued a few months ago had a spot of demodex mange on his head, it only took a month to completely clear up. He WAS kept in very deplorable conditions, and not treated very kindly, and his wasn't that bad. It just depends on the dog I think.

opal_pinkopal_pink on August 23rd, 2005 05:05 pm (UTC)
I just wonder if the breeder knew that the female was a carrier for red mange before she bred that dog? That's the weird part.
A mass of walking contradictions: gaydognickitty on August 23rd, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)
that's what i'm thinking too.....

i mean, if it was an isolated incident i wouldn't think too much of it, but this breeder.. hmm.. i'm just getting warning bells.
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 06:41 pm (UTC)
She has red mange? I was assuming it was demodex. If it is something other than Demodex mange, then I'm not sure about it. I only have experience with Demodex mange, in which case ALL dogs have it.
opal_pinkopal_pink on August 23rd, 2005 06:45 pm (UTC)
Demodex is red mange. I'm not vet, but they say carriers of this kind of mange should be spayed and not be allowed to pass it along to their offspring.
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 06:47 pm (UTC)
Nevermind. I see the article you posted in a comment to a previous post, I gotcha now! Who knows.. In my opinion it is not the end of the world, it is very treatable, some cases harder than others. It's the breeder who sounds pretty sketchy though. If it was a rescue I would see no problem in it, but this breeder has sounded a little off the entire time she's dealt with her :/.

Either way though- this pup will live with some good treatment started asap!
Amber: Ashtonchancepuppeh on August 23rd, 2005 03:49 pm (UTC)
Ohgosh. I seen the pics. It is possiably Demodex. She would have to be tested by a vet.
Jenn: Poutastridlynn on August 23rd, 2005 06:07 pm (UTC)
Like the others have said, this breeder sounds kind of sketchy. The breeder I got Charlie from--I found out afterthefact--had been told to not breed her bitch anymore because everytime she had a litter the vet got 1-2 pups in with demodex.

I would find out how much it will possibly cost to treat her. (Wondering here, why the breeder is so anxious to sell her instead of treating her him/herself.) Treatment can be quite costly and it looks like her mange is pretty far along. It starts out as a small thinning and balding, usually around the eyes and face. I'll see if I can dig up an old pic.... Calling the breeder's vet is definitely a good idea. Have they even taken her in yet or are they trying to take care of it on their own?
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 06:49 pm (UTC)
Hmm. How did you see the pics? I'd be curious to see how far along it is. Sounds like this might be more than what I'm picturing!
Jenn: Charlie Eyeastridlynn on August 23rd, 2005 06:58 pm (UTC)
The pictures were showing up just a bit ago...don't know where they went now though. Though the pictures were fuzzy, like they were taken with a cell phone, it looked like she had a large thinning/balding area on the right leg and flank. I couldn't see if there were spots on her face or not, as there wasn't enough detail on the pic and she had a mostly white face.
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 07:00 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see. Weird, I thought Demodex was mostly on their face... Oh well, what do I know!
Jenn: Just call me Momastridlynn on August 24th, 2005 10:56 am (UTC)
It starts out as small patches on the face, but can spread later. Although, I would think someone attentive to their dog would notice it before it spreads too far.

Love your icon, btw.
Kristenewitskristen on August 24th, 2005 02:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah- really!! And thanks :D.
Libbyalwaysnsync4 on August 23rd, 2005 06:51 pm (UTC)
After a lot of thinking, I have decided that it is just too much of a risk. She is so tiny and the shipping process would already be stressful. I don't want to make her life any harder.

I found some local breeders in the paper and I plan on buying from one of them.

Thanks to everyone for the advice.
Kristenewitskristen on August 23rd, 2005 07:06 pm (UTC)
I know it's heart breaking, but I think you've made the right choice. She will find a forever home with someone who will love her, she's a puppy. Don't worry :). If she was closer to you and wouldn't need to be shipped that would be one thing, but you're right, I think it would be far too stressful on the baby.

I know everyone always says it, but there ARE purebred Bostons in shelters. I find some on www.petfinder.com every day! I've even seen a pure bred female Boston PUPPY in person at a shelter. So if you can't find a reputable breeder or if you change your mind-it IS possible to adopt a Boston! At least that way usually their health problems are KNOWN so you know what you're getting. Not to mention if they're not a puppy, you get to skip house breaking and all that FUN stuff ;). But good luck with the other breeders, or whatever avenue you decide to use to get your Boston!
ashley jackson-pierceshesbeenelected on August 23rd, 2005 10:57 pm (UTC)
um, oh my god, it's huge white eye.

i am in major love.
ashley jackson-pierceshesbeenelected on August 23rd, 2005 10:58 pm (UTC)
her huge white eye, rather.

what a sweet little baby. i feel so sorry for her.
Rory and Charleyseethewizard on August 24th, 2005 04:36 am (UTC)
I feel sorry for her too. One of my previous dogs came with mange, and he turned out to be the best dog I ever had. He had mange, parasites -- you name it. But I could just tell that despite it all, he was a good dog, and it was the individual animal I was looking at, and he was a sweetie.

I would be happy to contribute toward this puppy's medical care if someone wanted to help her out.